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Iron Flask saving throw

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The Iron flask description states that the creature from another plane that gets sucked into the flask gets a Wisdom save but no level of save difficulty is listed. I guess it would be vs. the level of caster needed to create but no spell stands out for its creation.

Any erudite ideas?

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Grandpa wrote:
Thu Jun 29, 2023 1:26 pm
The Iron flask description states that the creature from another plane that gets sucked into the flask gets a Wisdom save but no level of save difficulty is listed. I guess it would be vs. the level of caster needed to create but no spell stands out for its creation.
Any erudite ideas?
I think it has come commonalities with the 8th level wizard spell Binding. The flask only works on extraplanar creatures, so it's a bit less flexible than the spell. So perhaps treat it as a 7th level effect? And thus the caster would need to be at least 13th level.

Anyways, just a thought for comparison...

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Could use the save from the older D&D material and convert; Seems to be between a DC 17 & 19 with 3.5 material hinting at a level 20 creation requirement.
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Go0gleplex wrote:
Sun Jul 09, 2023 5:54 am
Could use the save from the older D&D material and convert; Seems to be between a DC 17 & 19 with 3.5 material hinting at a level 20 creation requirement.
Thanks for the tip! At DC 19 (DMG 3.5) that translates to a ~9th level spell if DC = 10 + spell level of 9. At least a 17th level spell caster. Wisdom save = Cleric type item creator. So a CL of 17 would be the minimum. For a CC of 35.

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Sent to TLs and said Steve will fix for 10th printing
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Marcus Aurelius wrote:
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Sent to TLs and said Steve will fix for 10th printing
I like reading that. Thanks. :)
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JediOre wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:05 pm
Marcus Aurelius wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:29 am
Sent to TLs and said Steve will fix for 10th printing
I like reading that. Thanks. :)
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Many items need to be review one at a time with a check list. its not uncommon to find, no range on a spell, or an odd unit to area of effect, no clear save. a team of players and DMs going through each item and each spell in combat or correct use to see if its all there.
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