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Greetings all,

The first submissions for Crusader 27 landed on my desk last night. Mark Sandy worked up a nice guideline for making your existing class, multiclass (he's always switching mid-stream in my game). And we are working on a roll called Class Check...a quick and dirty way to do class-based perception checks if you are so inclined (your probably already doing this).

But we need more submissions.

If your interested in landing in Crusader with an adventure (short), magic items, spells, home rules that are pretty cool, etc give us a shout. Email TODD at todd AT trolllord.com.

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Troll Lord wrote:And we are working on a roll called Class Check...a quick and dirty way to do class-based perception checks if you are so inclined (your probably already doing this).
I'm eager to hear about this one.

I came up with my own rule, although it's more specific to surprise rolls. Instead of just a Wisdom roll, I allow the players to make a Dex roll if they prefer.

It just seemed odd that the Cleric was surprised less than the Rogue. ;)

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Nice, Steve! Interested in seeing this!
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Class checks actually go beyond perception. I will write the article for it if the editor will let me....

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Mac Golden wrote:Class checks actually go beyond perception. I will write the article for it if the editor will let me....

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PER (perception) = (INT+WIS+DEX+3d6)/4
Put it on PC sheets right after the main six
Use this for those darn nagging times, who notices what, but its not too specific.
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Neat idea.

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If I decide to go there, I'll just go with what I did in 1E AD&D for "perception", or do the INT+WIS/2=Perception attribute idea. I don't see a reason to increase such a formula to 4 numbers, but hey, if you like it, by all means do it. To me that is what C&C is all about.
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Kirk_O wrote:PER (perception) = (INT+WIS+DEX+3d6)/4
Put it on PC sheets right after the main six
Use this for those darn nagging times, who notices what, but its not too specific.
Gah! I'd rather just create a new perception stat and have the player roll 3d6.
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Buttmonkey wrote:
Kirk_O wrote:PER (perception) = (INT+WIS+DEX+3d6)/4
Put it on PC sheets right after the main six
Use this for those darn nagging times, who notices what, but its not too specific.
Gah! I'd rather just create a new perception stat and have the player roll 3d6.
Exactly why C&C is so awesome. Ultimately we do whatever we like best.
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Somewhat related, I don't like that Wisdom checks are used for Surprise checks. Why are clerics never surprised? ;) It seems to give that attribute extra weight.

My house rule is that each player can pick to use either his Wisdom (i.e., hits wits) or his Dex (i.e., reflexes) for surprise checks.

I also have the players all roll, but just use the best roll for their "side." Simplifies things a bit.

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Submission sent to Todd.

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Great idea, simply have the equivalent of a 7th stat (or 8th if you use COM) - PERC. You could allow it to be modified by some classes (thieves, assassins, Druids, Barbarians, Rangers and monks) and some races if appropriate? In my old way, which was a hodge-podge of trying too keep everyone happy that their PC SHOULD be the most perceptive, by the time you averaged three stats plus a roll it usually washes out and most PCs end up around the same... If you consider "perception" not to be INT, WIS, or DEX, it might be fun to keep the roll method highly varied, 3D6 even if other stats are 4D6 drop lowest or some such... the highly intelligent mage with the 5 PERC could be fun!

Anyway, like Tree says, more than one way to skin the cat or should we say, "Notice if someone in the next room is skinning a cat."

PS When crediting or referencing Treebore, I see "Tree" a lot, sorry Buttmonkey, is there a polite shortening?

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Alternate ideas for Encumbrance for your next issue:\

Make the players eacch draw their PC with everything on it, in its place; even a stick figure works. Its a fun task for all when taking a pizza break or some such and the group votes (peer pressure) who has too much stuff on their PC.. then they lighten the load as needed. If they won't do it willingly wait till they fail a save and their junk gets fried.... Play on.

Most silly fun to drive the point home is to dress up one person (the worst offender) in all their junk, have them jump onto a chair or better still make one roll (shoulder or summersault) across the floor too really feel what too much stuff does to you.
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Here is a short one page original comic by Scott Smith circa 1983
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More Pen and Ink by Scott Smith circa 1985
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Kirk_O wrote:Great idea, simply have the equivalent of a 7th stat (or 8th if you use COM) - PERC. You could allow it to be modified by some classes (thieves, assassins, Druids, Barbarians, Rangers and monks) and some races if appropriate? In my old way, which was a hodge-podge of trying too keep everyone happy that their PC SHOULD be the most perceptive, by the time you averaged three stats plus a roll it usually washes out and most PCs end up around the same... If you consider "perception" not to be INT, WIS, or DEX, it might be fun to keep the roll method highly varied, 3D6 even if other stats are 4D6 drop lowest or some such... the highly intelligent mage with the 5 PERC could be fun!

Anyway, like Tree says, more than one way to skin the cat or should we say, "Notice if someone in the next room is skinning a cat."

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Is this thing dead? Or just on break until other stuff is finished?
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Captain_K wrote:Is this thing dead? Or just on break until other stuff is finished?
Crusader is always on hiatus until other stuff is finished. If it wasn't we would be on issue 54+.
Since its 20,000 I suggest "Captain Nemo" as his title. Beyond the obvious connection, he is one who sails on his own terms and ignores those he doesn't agree with...confident in his journey and goals.
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If it picks up again, I might hop back in and contribute. I'm getting more free time again. :)
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At this point I'd settle for a quarterly magazine. Bump up the page count and bump up the cost. Make it a more financially feasible for TLG. I'd pay $5.00 + shipping. Maybe even a little more depending on how many pages where added. Once every 3 months seems reasonable. Print + pdf options, would be ideal. I don't know how I'd feel about a pdf only book, but pretty much every other rpg magazine (With the exception of Gygax Magazine, and maybe other mags I'm unaware of.) has gone pdf only, with Pyramid mag, Dragon mag and Dungeon mag all going this route.
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Sir Ironside wrote:At this point I'd settle for a quarterly magazine. Bump up the page count and bump up the cost. Make it a more financially feasible for TLG. I'd pay $5.00 + shipping.
If they get rid of a dead tree version it'll be more financially feasible. They could also sell them on RPGNow and the like.
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Arduin wrote: They could also sell them on RPGNow and the like.
Especially since they already do.
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Treebore wrote:
Arduin wrote: They could also sell them on RPGNow and the like.
Especially since they already do.
Well, they sell OLD editions. Not new ones. ;)
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Honestly I'd rather a print copy - I'll be happy with quarterly... If my group gets going well I may even generate some articles for future issues.
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