C&C Players Handbook, Help Please

[stoneshape]

Hello everyone

This is my first post, here is my first question. Is there any difference between the players handbook 1st and 2nd printing? If so, what are? Also how can I tell which one I have?

These questions may seem silly or trivial, but please answer if you can.

I just purchased C&C players handbook and Castle Zagyg, also Dark Chateau. I'm looking forward to getting some of the 1st ed AD&D feel again!

One last question, when is Castle Keepers Guide coming out?

Thanks!

[Tadhg]

stoneshape wrote:
Hello everyone

This is my first post, here is my first question. Is there any difference between the players handbook 1st and 2nd printing? If so, what are? Also how can I tell which one I have?

These questions may seem silly or trivial, but please answer if you can.

I just purchased C&C players handbook and Castle Zagyg, also Dark Chateau. I'm looking forward to getting some of the 1st ed AD&D feel again!

One last question, when is Castle Keepers Guide coming out?

Thanks!

Greetings stoneshape and welcome!
The 2nd print book is basically the same with all the errata/corrections applied along with some layout/art/minor font changes. The rules for the most part are exactly the same.

The way to tell is - look for the TLG number on the binding. TLG8010 is 1st print and TLG80102 is 2nd print.

But, don't despair if you've purchased the 1st print. It's fully functional (LOL to myself) and the one I almost always use. You would only need the errata doc and we can easily post a link if you need it.

The CKG is on the way, but not "needed" (see other posts here on this subject) to get started. That book will have lots of rule alternatives and CK optional ways of playing the game.

My group is currently in the Eastmark exploring the Dark Chateau and it's going very well. CZ/DC are fantastic!

Enjoy the game,

Rhu. 8)
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[Metathiax]

Although I do not own a copy of the Players Handbook first printing (and I would get a copy of the second printing if I were you), I have been told that its layout has been significantly revised in the second one. The errata of the first version has been corrected in the updated version (you can compare the extent of the errata of both versions by yourself : first printing vs second printing). The easiest way, you can tell what version you have is with the product code on the side of the book which should read TLG8010 for the first printing and TLG80102 for the second printing. I would also like to point out that the Monsters & Treasure book is also an excellent product (free promotion for TLG ). As for the CK Guide, its release date still remain to be determined but it is not required (although I imagine it will be full of goodies 8) ) to run the game.

Welcome to the Crusade!
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[Metathiax]

Oops, looks like you've been much faster than me, Rhuvein. Sorry for the redundancy Stoneshape.
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[Tadhg]

Metathiax wrote:
Oops, looks like you've been much faster than me, Rhuvein. Sorry for the redundancy Stoneshape.

Hah, just shows brilliant minds think alike. And hey, were just here to further the cause. We are after all Crusaders and Keepers of the Castle!
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"Enjoy a 'world' where the fantastic is fact and magic really works!" ~ Gary Gygax

"By the pricking of my thumbs, Something wicked this way comes:" - Macbeth

[stoneshape]

hi

mine says TLG 8050... i think its a 1st printing. What do you think?

Another question, I tried registering on Keeper's Den forums, it said my email address was banned (I've never been there before), i'm guessing they don't like hotmail addresses. Anyone know whats up with this?

Thanks.

[Metathiax]

The only TLG book which has 8050 for a number is Castle Zagyg Vol. I, I don't know how you could of got a Players Handbook with this number...
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[gideon_thorne]

stoneshape wrote:
hi

mine says TLG 8050... i think its a 1st printing. What do you think?

The TLG Second Printing will have a number on the bottom of the spine thus: TLG80102
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[grrrowler39]

stoneshape wrote:
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Another question, I tried registering on Keeper's Den forums, it said my email address was banned (I've never been there before), i'm guessing they don't like hotmail addresses. Anyone know whats up with this?

Thanks.

I am registered with Keeper's Den using a hotmail account, so that is not the problem. What is your address in front of hotmail? Perhaps they don't like that for some reason.

Welcome to the addiction!
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[Tadhg]

stoneshape wrote:
Another question, I tried registering on Keeper's Den forums, it said my email address was banned (I've never been there before), i'm guessing they don't like hotmail addresses. Anyone know whats up with this?

Thanks.

We had a spam bot attack recently and probably blocked hotmail accounts, so I can change it. grrrowler probably was registered before we started blocking them. But we've since disabled guest posting, so we can release some of the email service names.
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"Enjoy a 'world' where the fantastic is fact and magic really works!" ~ Gary Gygax

"By the pricking of my thumbs, Something wicked this way comes:" - Macbeth

[grrrowler39]

Rhu,

Thanks for the clarification on this item.

I hate spam bots!
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[stoneshape]

hi all

i'm all sorted now. I've got TLG 80102 2nd printing. I looked at the wrong spine in mentioning TLG 8050, of course its CZ.

I tell you, you folks on these gaming forums sure are sharp, patient, and gracious!!!

Thanks BIG!

[rabindranath72]

stoneshape wrote:
hi all

i'm all sorted now. I've got TLG 80102 2nd printing. I looked at the wrong spine in mentioning TLG 8050, of course its CZ.

I tell you, you folks on these gaming forums sure are sharp, patient, and gracious!!!

Thanks BIG!

We are all fellow Crusaders!