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Torch and Lantern burn durations

Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:03 pm

In AD&D or maybe the SRD it stars that torches burn for an hour and that a pint of oil will burn in a lantern for 6 hours. Is there a rule in C&C? If there is, I cannot find it.

Re: Torch and Lantern burn durations

Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:14 pm

Not in the rules as I recall.

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=17072&hilit=torch+duration

I deleted my post there, but I have a rule that torches burn for 1 hour and illuminate 45 - 120 feet, depending on condition and material.

Re: Torch and Lantern burn durations

Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:21 pm

The CKG actually warns against tracking wear and tear on individual pieces of equipment as not worth the effort; the chart on pg. 182 could be used I suppose but it doesn't differentiate lighting from other gear. The C&C PHB doesn't offer any equipment descriptions, where this info would usually be (I'm trying to figure out what a 'zither' could be!).

Considering how much time adventurers spend underground, I don't think it's a nothing issue. Even in AD&D days, I wondered how to determine when a light source is snuffed (due to weather, an ambush, etc.) but that's so conditional it's best judged at the table.

Re: Torch and Lantern burn durations

Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:24 pm

C&C is a "rules light" system. Many things are left to the CK's discretion / common sense.

A Zither

Re: Torch and Lantern burn durations

Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:35 pm

Any time I want a rule I can't find in C&C I just look it up in the 3E SRD. Such as another relatively common question, how do magical armor bonus' stack? I use the 3E way, which pretty much goes all the way back to 1E AD&D. Aside from the new terms 3E came up with, such as a Luck bonus, and Natural Armor, both terms C&C uses too.

Re: Torch and Lantern burn durations

Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:38 pm

mmbutter wrote:A Zither


Yeah, doing word searches on the internet has yet to fail me.

Re: Torch and Lantern burn durations

Sun Mar 18, 2018 12:54 pm

I did break down and google zither; still, a little surprising that such a relatively obscure (and impractical) thing would show up in a generic equipment list!

The 3e SRD is a good idea.

Re: Torch and Lantern burn durations

Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:49 pm

Snoring Rock wrote:In AD&D or maybe the SRD it stars that torches burn for an hour and that a pint of oil will burn in a lantern for 6 hours. Is there a rule in C&C? If there is, I cannot find it.


Looking back at D&D:

In original D&D (1974) no burning times were given, however the D&D Basic Set (1977, "Holmes") gives a burning time of 1 hour per torch, 4 hours per flask of oil for lanterns. This stays the same in each edition of D&D, including the original edition of AD&D. It wasn't until AD&D 2nd Edition that we see lanterns that have a burning time of 6 hours.

Re: Torch and Lantern burn durations

Thu Mar 22, 2018 1:19 am

simple rule be a dwarf or a half orc or suffer under ground.. it will always go dark unless you prepare well, have magic or long lasting light, but it will fail when you least expect it or most need it!

Re: Torch and Lantern burn durations

Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:14 pm

To paraphrase J.M. Stracynski: It burns at the rate of plot. :)

Re: Torch and Lantern burn durations

Sat Apr 07, 2018 11:11 pm

Caladbolg wrote:To paraphrase J.M. Stracynski: It burns at the rate of plot. :)


Or in my experience, until the party starts to use continual flame ;)

Re: Torch and Lantern burn durations

Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:53 am

Caladbolg wrote:To paraphrase J.M. Stracynski: It burns at the rate of plot. :)


nice!
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