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serleran's (doyel's) old pregenerated M&T experience list?

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I'm going to be figuring my players experience between adventures today. I'm unable to find my old copies of Serleran's old
pre-generated xp list for M&T. Does anybody have the file? Thanks.

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Re: serleran's (doyel's) old pregenerated M&T experience lis

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Are you talking about this? I'm sorry, I'm being lazy, but this comes from a pdf that's titled "Average XP Awards." I think think is his.
  • Average XP Award / Monster [Pre-Treasure] (Values Rounded Up)
    Aboleth – 1660
    Achaierai – 702
    Allip – 274
    Ant, Giant (Worker) – 9
    Ant, Giant (Soldier) – 38
    Ant, Giant (Queen) – 193
    Ankheg – 358
    Ape, Great – 71
    Arrowhawk, Small – 111
    Arrowhawk, Medium – 582
    Arrowhawk, Large – 3973
    Assassin Vine, Small – 433
    Assassin Vine, Medium – 470
    Assassin Vine, Large – 520
    Baboon – 9
    Banshee – 941
    Barghest, 1 HD – 28
    Barghest, 2 HD – 61
    Barghest, 3 HD – 131
    Barghest, 4 HD – 252
    Barghest, 5 HD – 473
    Barghest, 6 HD – 702
    Barghest, 7 HD – 1031
    Barghest, 8 HD – 1463
    Barghest, 9 HD – 2165
    Basilisk – 438
    Bear, Black – 81
    Bear, Brown (Grizzly) – 442
    Bear, Cave – 916
    Behir – 3171
    Belker – 1076
    Bird of Prey, Small – 9
    Bird of Prey, Large – 112
    Blink Dog – 52
    Boar, Wild (Razorback) – 33
    Bodak – 2312
    Bugbear – 61
    Bulette – 2056
    Cat – 3
    Centaur – 182
    Chimera – 1656
    Cloaker – 552
    Cockatrice – 278
    Couatl – 2590
    Crocodile (Alligator) – 71
    Darkmantle – 23
    Devourer – 6111
    Dinosaur: Triceratops – 5327
    Dinosaur: Tyrannosaurus – 7358
    Dog (Coyote) – 10
    Doppelganger – 192
    Dragon, Black, Age 1 – 392
    Dragon, Black, Age 2 – 1122
    Dragon, Black, Age 3 – 2338
    Dragon, Black, Age 4-6 – 8548
    Dragon, Black, Age 7-9 – 20352
    Dragon, Black, Age 10 – 33850
    Dragon, Black, Age 11 – 57842
    Dragon, Black, Age 12 – 81878
    Dragon, Black, Age 1 (Has Dragon Magic) – 412
    Dragon, Black, Age 2 (Has Dragon Magic) – 1242
    Dragon, Black, Age 3 (Has Dragon Magic) – 2713
    Dragon, Black, Age 4-6 (Has Dragon Magic) – 10248
    Dragon, Black, Age 7-9 (Has Dragon Magic) – 25352
    Dragon, Black, Age 10 (Has Dragon Magic) – 44050
    Dragon, Black, Age 11 (Has Dragon Magic) – 75342
    Dragon, Black, Age 12 (Has Dragon Magic) – 108278
    Dragon, Blue, Age 1 – 1122
    Dragon, Blue, Age 2 – 2338
    Dragon, Blue, Age 3 – 5250
    Dragon, Blue, Age 4-6 – 12782
    Dragon, Blue, Age 7-9 – 23758
    Dragon, Blue, Age 10 – 43528
    Dragon, Blue, Age 11 – 58392
    Dragon, Blue, Age 12 – 82378
    Dragon, Blue, Age 1 (Has Dragon Magic) – 1182
    Dragon, Blue, Age 2 (Has Dragon Magic) – 2588
    Dragon, Blue, Age 3 (Has Dragon Magic) – 6150
    Dragon, Blue, Age 4-6 (Has Dragon Magic) – 15782
    Dragon, Blue, Age 7-9 (Has Dragon Magic) – 30258
    Dragon, Blue, Age 10 (Has Dragon Magic) – 52928
    Dragon, Blue, Age 11 (Has Dragon Magic) – 82892
    Dragon, Blue, Age 12 (Has Dragon Magic) – 108578
    Dragon, Green, Age 1 – 1062
    Dragon, Green, Age 2 – 2463
    Dragon, Green, Age 3 – 5550
    Dragon, Green, Age 4-6 – 8123
    Dragon, Green, Age 7-9 – 20852
    Dragon, Green, Age 10 – 27758
    Dragon, Green, Age 11 – 37950
    Dragon, Green, Age 12 – 62442
    Dragon, Green, Age 1 (Has Dragon Magic) – 1242
    Dragon, Green, Age 2 (Has Dragon Magic) – 2713
    Dragon, Green, Age 3 (Has Dragon Magic) – 6450
    Dragon, Green, Age 4-6 (Has Dragon Magic) – 9823
    Dragon, Green, Age 7-9 (Has Dragon Magic) – 24852
    Dragon, Green, Age 10 (Has Dragon Magic) – 35558
    Dragon, Green, Age 11 (Has Dragon Magic) – 49850
    Dragon, Green, Age 12 (Has Dragon Magic) – 82442
    Dragon, Red, Age 1 – 2663
    Dragon, Red, Age 2 – 6000
    Dragon, Red, Age 3 – 14632
    Dragon, Red, Age 4-6 – 25758
    Dragon, Red, Age 7-9 – 43128
    Dragon, Red, Age 10 – 64492
    Dragon, Red, Age 11 – 82900
    Dragon, Red, Age 12 – 108152
    Dragon, Red, Age 1 (Has Dragon Magic) – 2788
    Dragon, Red, Age 2 (Has Dragon Magic) – 6600
    Dragon, Red, Age 3 (Has Dragon Magic) – 16882
    Dragon, Red, Age 4-6 (Has Dragon Magic) – 30958
    Dragon, Red, Age 7-9 (Has Dragon Magic) – 55728
    Dragon, Red, Age 10 (Has Dragon Magic) – 81892
    Dragon, Red, Age 11 (Has Dragon Magic) – 108800
    Dragon, Red, Age 12 (Has Dragon Magic) – 168252
    Dragon, White, Age 1 – 231
    Dragon, White, Age 2 – 793
    Dragon, White, Age 3 – 1681
    Dragon, White, Age 4-6 – 7245
    Dragon, White, Age 7-9 – 19013
    Dragon, White, Age 10 – 31925
    Dragon, White, Age 11 – 53081
    Dragon, White, Age 12 – 79581
    Dragon, White, Age 1 (Has Dragon Magic) – 241
    Dragon, White, Age 2 (Has Dragon Magic) – 833
    Dragon, White, Age 3 (Has Dragon Magic) – 1861
    Dragon, White, Age 4-6 (Has Dragon Magic) – 7995
    Dragon, White, Age 7-9 (Has Dragon Magic) – 21713
    Dragon, White, Age 10 (Has Dragon Magic) – 34425
    Dragon, White, Age 11 (Has Dragon Magic) – 42281
    Dragon, White, Age 12 (Has Dragon Magic) – 81981
    Dragon, Brass, Age 1 – 1242
    Dragon, Brass, Age 2 – 2588
    Dragon, Brass, Age 3 – 5850
    Dragon, Brass, Age 4-6 – 8973
    Dragon, Brass, Age 7-9 – 15782
    Dragon, Brass, Age 10 – 29658
    Dragon, Brass, Age 11 – 49428
    Dragon, Brass, Age 12 – 71492
    Dragon, Brass, Age 1 (Has Dragon Magic) – 1302
    Dragon, Brass, Age 2 (Has Dragon Magic) – 2838
    Dragon, Brass, Age 3 (Has Dragon Magic) – 6750
    Dragon, Brass, Age 4-6 (Has Dragon Magic) – 10673
    Dragon, Brass, Age 7-9 (Has Dragon Magic) – 19532
    Dragon, Brass, Age 10 (Has Dragon Magic) – 37458
    Dragon, Brass, Age 11 (Has Dragon Magic) – 64128
    Dragon, Brass, Age 12 (Has Dragon Magic) – 94692
    Dragon, Bronze, Age 1 – 1302
    Dragon, Bronze, Age 2 – 2913
    Dragon, Bronze, Age 3 – 9498
    Dragon, Bronze, Age 4-6 – 23952
    Dragon, Bronze, Age 7-9 – 41550
    Dragon, Bronze, Age 10 – 56042
    Dragon, Bronze, Age 11 – 91878
    Dragon, Bronze, Age 12 – 121258
    Dragon, Bronze, Age 1 (Has Dragon Magic) – 1362
    Dragon, Bronze, Age 2 (Has Dragon Magic) – 3163
    Dragon, Bronze, Age 3 (Has Dragon Magic) – 10773
    Dragon, Bronze, Age 4-6 (Has Dragon Magic) – 27952
    Dragon, Bronze, Age 7-9 (Has Dragon Magic) – 50050
    Dragon, Bronze, Age 10 (Has Dragon Magic) – 71042
    Dragon, Bronze, Age 11 (Has Dragon Magic) – 114978
    Dragon, Bronze, Age 12 (Has Dragon Magic) – 154058
    Dragon, Copper, Age 1 – 873
    Dragon, Copper, Age 2 – 1931
    Dragon, Copper, Age 3 – 4165
    Dragon, Copper, Age 4-6 – 6830
    Dragon, Copper, Age 7-9 – 20013
    Dragon, Copper, Age 10 – 34025
    Dragon, Copper, Age 11 – 57181
    Dragon, Copper, Age 12 – 82881
    Dragon, Copper, Age 1 (Has Dragon Magic) – 913
    Dragon, Copper, Age 2 (Has Dragon Magic) – 2056
    Dragon, Copper, Age 3 (Has Dragon Magic) – 4565
    Dragon, Copper, Age 4-6 (Has Dragon Magic) – 7580
    Dragon, Copper, Age 7-9 (Has Dragon Magic) – 22713
    Dragon, Copper, Age 10 (Has Dragon Magic) – 38525
    Dragon, Copper, Age 11 (Has Dragon Magic) – 66381
    Dragon, Copper, Age 12 (Has Dragon Magic) – 95281
    Dragon, Gold, Age 1 – 2788
    Dragon, Gold, Age 2 – 6300
    Dragon, Gold, Age 3 – 15382
    Dragon, Gold, Age 4-6 – 27058
    Dragon, Gold, Age 7-9 – 50928
    Dragon, Gold, Age 10 – 86878
    Dragon, Gold, Age 11 – 126752
    Dragon, Gold, Age 12 – 145782
    Dragon, Gold, Age 1 (Has Dragon Magic) – 2913
    Dragon, Gold, Age 2 (Has Dragon Magic) – 7500
    Dragon, Gold, Age 3 (Has Dragon Magic) – 22132
    Dragon, Gold, Age 4-6 (Has Dragon Magic) – 50658
    Dragon, Gold, Age 7-9 (Has Dragon Magic) – 113428
    Dragon, Gold, Age 10 (Has Dragon Magic) – 146978
    Dragon, Gold, Age 11 (Has Dragon Magic) – 192152
    Dragon, Gold, Age 12 (Has Dragon Magic) – 230482
    Dragon, Silver, Age 1 – 2049
    Dragon, Silver, Age 2 – 5700
    Dragon, Silver, Age 3 – 7779
    Dragon, Silver, Age 4-6 – 18344
    Dragon, Silver, Age 7-9 – 31950
    Dragon, Silver, Age 10 – 54766
    Dragon, Silver, Age 11 – 77994
    Dragon, Silver, Age 12 – 103334
    Dragon, Silver, Age 1 (Has Dragon Magic) – 2174
    Dragon, Silver, Age 2 (Has Dragon Magic) – 5850
    Dragon, Silver, Age 3 (Has Dragon Magic) – 9054
    Dragon, Silver, Age 4-6 (Has Dragon Magic) – 23496
    Dragon, Silver, Age 7-9 (Has Dragon Magic) – 40450
    Dragon, Silver, Age 10 (Has Dragon Magic) – 72266
    Dragon, Silver, Age 11 (Has Dragon Magic) – 104934
    Dragon, Silver, Age 12 (Has Dragon Magic) – 140234
    Dragonne – 1246
    Drider – 941
    Dryad – 43
    Dwarf – 12
    Eagle, Giant – 148
    Elemental, Any, 2 HD – 38
    Elemental, Any, 8 HD – 1098
    Elemental, Any, 16 HD – 5152
    Elephant – 491
    Elf, Non-Drow – 12
    Elf, Drow, Male – 23
    Elf, Drow, Female – 39
    Ettercap – 333
    Ettin – 1350
    Fleshcrawler – 101
    Frog, Giant – 24
    Frost Worm – 7678
    Fungus, Violet – 29
    Gargoyle – 273
    Gelatinous Cube – 218
    Genie, Djinni – 1035
    Genie, Efreeti – 3300
    Ghast – 222
    Ghost – 2200
    Ghoul – 39
    Giant, Cloud – 5882
    Giant, Fire – 3098
    Giant, Frost – 2495
    Giant, Hill – 965
    Giant, Stone – 1650
    Giant, Storm – 9701
    Gibbering Mouther – 232
    Gnoll – 19
    Gnome – 12
    Goblin – 9
    Golem, Clay – 1246
    Golem, Flesh – 540
    Golem, Iron – 9078
    Golem, Stone – 3092
    Gorgon – 1162
    Green Slime – 192
    Griffon – 540
    Hag, Annis – 1076
    Hag, Green – 1965
    Hag, Night – 1648
    Halfling – 12
    Harpy – 81
    Hellhound, 4 HD – 192
    Hellhound, 8 HD – 1098
    Herd Animal – 28
    Hippogriff – 80
    Hobgoblin – 13
    Homunculus – 52
    Horse, Heavy War – 148
    Horse, Light War – 80
    Horse, Riding – 28
    Human – 10
    Hydra, 5 HD – 533
    Hydra, 6 HD – 792
    Hydra, 7 HD – 1121
    Hydra, 8 HD – 1433
    Hydra, 9 HD – 2065
    Hydra, 10 HD – 3300
    Hydra, 11 HD – 4165
    Hydra, 12 HD – 5148
    Imp – 20
    Invisible Stalker – 828
    Jackal – 9
    Jaculus – 18
    Kobold – 8
    Kraken (Leviathan) – 13001
    Lamia – 1846
    Lammasu – 990
    Lich – 11858
    Lion – 150
    Lizard, Giant – 112
    Lizardfolk – 28
    Locathah – 28
    Lycanthrope, Werebear – 896
    Lycanthrope, Wereboar – 135
    Lycanthrope, Wererat – 126
    Lycanthrope, Weretiger – 432
    Lycanthrope, Werewolf – 192
    Lynx, Giant – 33
    Manticore – 558
    Medusa – 612
    Merman / Mermaid – 15
    Mimic – 806
    Minotaur – 581
    Mummy – 1039
    Naga, Dark – 1565
    Naga, Ghost – 232
    Naga, Guardian – 4248
    Naga, Spirit – 1965
    Naga, Water – 761
    Nightmare – 941
    Nymph – 92
    Ogre – 112
    Ogre Mage – 313
    Ooze, Black Pudding – 2050
    Ooze, Gray – 100
    Ooze, Ochre Jelly – 498
    Orc – 10
    Otyugh – 462
    Owlbear – 298
    Pegasus – 148
    Phase Spider – 338
    Pony – 28
    Pony, War – 61
    Prysmal Eye (Nonocculus) – 12938
    Pseudodragon – 93
    Purple Worm – 6938
    Quasit – 24
    Rakshasa – 1391
    Rat, Giant – 4
    Raven – 7
    Remorhaz – 990
    Roc – 5358
    Roper – 1350
    Rust Monster – 273
    Sahuagin – 96
    Salamander – 433
    Satyr – 101
    Screecher – 44
    Shadow – 139
    Shadow Mastiff – 162
    Shambling Mound – 1368
    Shark – 61
    Shark, Magalodon – 3482
    Skeleton – 17
    Snake, Giant Constrictor – 372
    Snake, Venomous – 12
    Spectre – 979
    Sphinx, Androsphinx – 4117
    Sphinx, Criosphinx – 1450
    Sphinx, Gynosphinx – 1027
    Sphinx, Hieracosphinx – 1046
    Spider, Small – 14
    Spider, Medium – 93
    Spider, Large – 353
    Sprite, Grig – 28
    Sprite, Nixie – 18
    Sprite, Pixie – 38
    Stirge – 19
    Tavis (Worm) Wyrm – 71
    Tick, Giant – 38
    Tiger – 293
    Titan – 10901
    Toad, Giant – 98
    Treant – 806
    Troglodyte – 19
    Troll – 492
    Troll, River – 549
    Troll, Hill – 1565
    Unicorn – 308
    Vampire – 2301
    Wight – 224
    Will-o’-Wisp – 1765
    Wolf – 28
    Wolf, Worg – 132
    Wolf, Winter – 442
    Wraith – 443
    Wyvern – 859
    Xorn – 1098
    Yrthak – 4542
    Zombie – 33
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Re: serleran's (doyel's) old pregenerated M&T experience lis

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Things may have changed with "errata" updates -- I have not, and likely won't, make corrections.

And yes, that was/is mine.

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Re: serleran's (doyel's) old pregenerated M&T experience lis

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Many thanks to you, my friend.

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As noted, with the 4th print Monsters & Treasure, those numbers are no longer accurate. At the time Robert wrote that list, the Trolls had a guideline from Gary not to give out too much XP. The values were arbitrarily chosen with that guideline in mind. The 4th print now figures XP for creatures according to the XP rules at the beginning of the book instead of arbitrarily choosing a value. Despite this change, the XP values still adhere to Gary's guideline. It seems that for every creature in the book that was overvalued, there was a creature that was undervalued by a similar amount.

To figure the average XP for each creature, you need to know the average hit points of the creature. To determine the average hit points, multiply the hit dice times a number from the following list, based upon the die type. Round up the result as necessary.

d4 = 2.5
d6 = 3.5
d8 = 4.5
d10 = 5.5
d12 = 6.5
d20 = 10.5

For example, an average 2D8 hit die creature would have 9 hit points. A 3D8 hit die creature would have 13.5 hit points, so you'd round up to 14.

Once you determine the average hit points, figure XP normally, substituting the average hit points for the actual hit points.

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As an adjunct to this discussion, figuring dragons using the values in the 4th print does work, with one exception. The values given in the book are for the dragon without dragon magic. If a dragon has dragon magic, the value is going to change by the amount of a Type I, Type II, and/or Type III special.

Since I promised it, and it might be applicable if only to figure out the XP values for dragon magic, here is a list of XP values for every creature in Monsters & Treasure. Beneath this are listed their specials, sorted by Type I, II, or III as well as explanatory notes where necessary.

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