What do you hope for with a 5th printing PHB?

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Stephen! "SR boy" is causing more confusion right before the 5th printing. Lol. Just joking.

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The Trolls can't win. I'll complain if they don't put clarifications in the 5th printing, but if they do, I'll complain that I have to buy a new book.

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tylermo wrote:Stephen! "SR boy" is causing more confusion right before the 5th printing. Lol. Just joking.
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For a fifth printing, I would like better clarity, boxes with rules summary.
Old school style is nice, but a better reading of the information would be appreciated.

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A better encumbrance system. It's the one thing I don't like about C&C.
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I'm still waiting for that pony.
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ooh! I wanna pony too!
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western watcher wrote:A better encumbrance system. It's the one thing I don't like about C&C.
I'd pay $50.00 to see C&C officially adopt the LotFP encumbrance system.

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Aergraith wrote:The Trolls can't win. I'll complain if they don't put clarifications in the 5th printing, but if they do, I'll complain that I have to buy a new book.

Poor guys.
So buy the PDF for $15 - for the price of 2 "value meals" at the Windy's Arkansas Fried McBurger Emporium you have all the new crunch without paying the full freight of a new book.

You win, the Trolls win and you even have enough money left to buy a Happy McPrince meal :D
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Andred of Albans wrote:
Aergraith wrote:The Trolls can't win. I'll complain if they don't put clarifications in the 5th printing, but if they do, I'll complain that I have to buy a new book.

Poor guys.
So buy the PDF for $15 - for the price of 2 "value meals" at the Windy's Arkansas Fried McBurger Emporium you have all the new crunch without paying the full freight of a new book.

You win, the Trolls win and you even have enough money left to buy a Happy McPrince meal :D
"Happy McPrince" will be the name of my next character!
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MormonYoYoMan wrote:[
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This was probably already stated, but in case it wasn't: Armor, Weapon, and Equipment descriptions. Brief ones, but descriptions nonetheless.
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I'm still pulling for Ranger art that doesn't make Rangers out to be a class built for two weapon fighting, something that was probably a left over from 3rd edition but that didn't make the transition into C&C.
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TheMetal1 wrote:Clarify magic item creation

Clarify use of helmets

Cross reference the PHB with the CKG, MT, OGM, etc

Clarify prime vs non-prime checks i.e. rogue move silently vs fighter w/ 18 Dex move silently

Prime 12/18 vs Prime +6
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mostrojoe wrote:
TheMetal1 wrote:Clarify magic item creation

Clarify use of helmets

Cross reference the PHB with the CKG, MT, OGM, etc

Clarify prime vs non-prime checks i.e. rogue move silently vs fighter w/ 18 Dex move silently

Prime 12/18 vs Prime +6
Agreed.
I don't wholly agree.

Magic item creation is a Monsters & Treasure item and does not fall under the scope of the PHB revisions, unless rules for magic item creation are in a section of the PHB I haven't seen yet. When Monsters & Treasure is set to be revised, then I'm sure any necessary clarifications will be added.

The helmets table should be removed since there are no rules for called shots to the head in the combat section.

Cross referencing is only required between the PHB and M&T and the main concern in that regard is with creatures and items in Monsters & Treasure not having EV values. All other books are optional and thus adding cross references would only serve to confuse.

Prime vs. non-prime checks I thought was pretty crystal.

Prime 12/18 is a style choice on the Trolls' part. Mechanically, 12/18 and +6 are the same thing.

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I hope no another mess with the encumbrance rules :D

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I'd like to see the "Expert Weapons and Armor" details moved out of the Encumbrance section.

I'd like to see the grammar cleaned a bit more - some hiccups remian in the Surprise section and the Combat Example off the top of my head.

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MattyHelms wrote:I'd like to see the grammar cleaned a bit more.
That's being worked on as we speak.

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I hope that the Trolls will take me up on my offer to help with proofing ...

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