What Encumbrance system do you use?

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Which emcumbrance system do you use?

C&C method (EV system)
9
22%
Strength = weight allowance, w/ levels of encumbrance (2nd Ed. AD&D)
2
5%
Strength governs wieght carried, with light load, medium load, etc.)(3.x D&D)
1
2%
I don't bother, but I keep it realistic
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56%
I don't bother at all...carry what you want(in other words, I don't use it)
2
5%
Some other method (please elaborate)
4
10%
 
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This has probably been asked before (maybe even in poll format) but I was wondering what you all used to determine the carry capacities of your groups. My group is not particularly fond of the EV system, so for my next campaign, I'm considering going a different route.

I was hoping to get others feedback on what systems they use and why and hear the pros of some or the cons of others.

My initial thought is going with the 2nd Edition weight allowance system - strength determines how much you can carry. If you go over that amount, consult a chart that will determine what your movement rate is and how movement and combat is affected. But I've been borrowing a lot from 2nd Edition these days (like the surprise rules).
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By the book, baby! I have learned to love C&C's EV system. It IS simple, if you don't go building your own EV scores. Use the copious amount of examples in the book to guage what EV an item might have, and wammo!

I like the thought of adding up simple, 1-digit numbers to total up encumbrance.

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I usually don't bother with encumbrance unless players start to get excessive with it.
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Encumbrance is abacus gaming. I throw it out. If a player tries to abuse being allowed to carry things, I cut them off. Besides, I like using bags of holding and other various multidimensional objects so it typically never becomes an issue anyway.

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I used to handwave it until I discovered Lamentations of the Flame Princess. The gist of it is on page two of the LotFP character sheet.

http://www.lotfp.com/RPG/uploads/pdf/Ch ... heeta4.pdf

Since it's on page two it's really easy to use it with most any game.

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Eisenmann wrote:I used to handwave it until I discovered Lamentations of the Flame Princess. The gist of it is on page two of the LotFP character sheet.

http://www.lotfp.com/RPG/uploads/pdf/Ch ... heeta4.pdf

Since it's on page two it's really easy to use it with most any game.
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wow! I am in full agreement with the last two posters.

1. I have never bothered with encumbrance, except when things get ridiculous (carpets, the proverbial sword golf bag, etc). But the LotFP system is awesome. I will yoink it immediately.

2. It's a great sheet. Very inspirational!
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Since the EV system is inconsistently applied throughout the game (through no fault of the guy who wrote it) and is far too abstract, I ditched it and used a strength-based version, but not a d20 version.

Suffice it to say that I'd use the LotFP system even over my own, if I needed or wanted a quick system like that.

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I would use a system like that! Simple, does the job=genius!
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That IS pretty slick.
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Post by zarathustra »

I use this one. Similar to BFRPG


Simple Encumbrance System


PC can carry as many items as he has strength points without penalty. System is based off # of items with a very simplified EV.

Add 2 items for a strength prime. Add 2 item for a constitution prime. Eg. 10 strength + con prime = 12 items without penalty.

● You can assume your blades have scabbards, baldrics etc or not, as fits your character image at no EV cost. Basic clothes come free.
Do count all other arms, armour and equipment (quivers, backpacks, pouches, helmets, blankets etc).

In general 1 item counts as 1 item (obviously) BUT....

Objects in the weapons and equipment section with EV's of 1 count as 0.5 items.

Those listed with EV 4 and higher count as 2 items.

Objects listed in equipment and weapons as asterisk* EV get added together. Ten and less make 0.5 items, 11-20 make 1 item and so on.

50 coins equals 0.5 items. 3 sling bullets equals 0.5 items.

Armour of AC 6 and higher counts as 2 items.

Encumbered PC's are 1/2 move, -2 on surprise rolls and all dex checks, trying to keep all that gear in line.

Just 1 encumbrance category but is harshish. Since the iniitial limit is generous enough and mounts are available and I prefer a game where gear choices come into play, I have opted for that scenario.

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finarvyn wrote:I usually don't bother with encumbrance unless players start to get excessive with it.
+1

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I didn't care for the C&C encumbrance rules when the PH was first released. So I just used a sort of common sense approach which worked fine for years. Then when the Trolls and Josh streamlined and made some adjustments to those rules in later print runs, I took 2 of my player's PCs and did a full EV accounting on them and their equipment and my assessments were very close to the RAW.

So now, I just go with my gut and occasionally look at the rules if a PCs acquires something big, heavy or otherwise needing an EV check.

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Like many others, i don't use any rules for encumbrance. I keep it realistic anyway :)

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I don't bother unless im feeling like a asshat/the players are going too far or someone gets stupid with it. My tent,backpack,winter blanket,100 foot of rope and three gallons of milk are in my beltpouch= Time for a encubrance audit.

I use the hackmaster system for encubrance audit! Well not really but I tell the players the following.

I expect you fellows to use the Castles and Crusades rules on encumbrance. Now im never going to check your figures unless there is some issue. As long as you keep a rough track and don't try anything too crazy then I really do not care.

The second you guys push it too far or it comes up in game or I just feel like being a shit, im going to halt the game and run a encumbrance audit and anything over the limit is going to go. You guys do not get to pick what goes...I do. So unless you want to be stranded on the side of a cliff with a 10,000 foot drop with no armor,no weapons,no rope or climbing tools and 800,000 gold, Do not let it b ecome a issue.

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Another quick fix for encumbrance: give them a bag of holding early.
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When the PCs pick up new treasure or items I just do a reality check, and ask the players how much their characters are carrying, and how many big items they are trying to carry. I assume someone can carry half their their body weight before they are significantly slowed down. Otherwise, I just keep it reasonable, such as asking a player to justify how their PC could be carrying both a halberd and a 10 foot pole. I remind players before the start of treasure-centered adventures that they will need to plan on transporting any treasure they find. It also helps that I make "standard" coins smaller, 100 to a pound. This way the coins are as small as "real" gold coins frequently were, and the PCs can carry more before I have to be bothered with encumbrance.
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I use the EV method as my guide and to educate newer players so they quickly get an idea of how quickly a character can become encumbered. We usually calculate after character creation is complete but I have never found it necessary to audit the characters later on.

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I haven't used EV in the past but I'm probably going to introduce it to my campaign. C&C has a good encumbrance system and I've found by not using it certain characters (esp. Rogues) don't get the benefits of 'traveling light' that they should.

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