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Well, there is no doubt that that would be awesome, but...

Seeing what C&C has produces already, I'm inclined to stick with the saddle-stiched, or stapled "module-like" format (in appearence). We don't really need all of that folio, pocketed stuff anyways (although I don't discourage such a thought).

If the esteemed Julian Grimm is referring to layout and presentation, I also agree whole-heartedly that the GH folio layout is uber-cool. Though, again, seeing what the Trolls have previously released, I'm almost inclined to stick with the clean layout that they have already used.

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I was thinking a combination. The folio outer folder...thing. With the saddle stiched book and the larger maps tucked inside.
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Any updates on how close we are to being able purchase this?
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Its still TBA (To Be Annonced) on the website. Pricing and page count are up, but that is probably before Steve realized it was going to be bigger than he thought.

Yeah, I'm sure of it. Page count is 24, and he is looking at least at a 32 page count. Probably 40. Maybe even more. Which is fine by me. In the long run it is cheaper for us to buy a few high page count books rather than a bunch of low page count books.
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Uggh. This thing is growing like some weird nuclear accident involving a bug or rodent. No telling how huge it's going to get!
But count me in. I'm buying for sure!
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Gamma radiation does that. I fear we may have something that comes out of the box screaming "AIRDHE MAD!!!AIRDHE SMASH!!!!"
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Wasn't there a post awhile back saying that they planned on this being a gencon release? Or am I thinking of something else?

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The boxed set, 1 of 2, for Castle Zagyg is a GenCon release.
Since its 20,000 I suggest "Captain Nemo" as his title. Beyond the obvious connection, he is one who sails on his own terms and ignores those he doesn't agree with...confident in his journey and goals.
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The boxed set, 1 of 2, for Castle Zagyg is a GenCon release.

Yeah, I remember now. And the Aihrde and Inzae boxed sets too.

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Rhuvein wrote:
Uggh. This thing is growing like some weird nuclear accident involving a bug or rodent. No telling how huge it's going to get!
But count me in. I'm buying for sure!

I have been knocked off of this for a host of reasons that include Dundracon, screens problems, PH collectors book, Crusader 6 and 7 etc etc. But I'm going to get back on it tomorrow and hopefully put a wrap on it this week. I'm finishing up articles for Crusader 6 first to get that into layout and then back on this to wrap it up. Hopefullly...as Gary would say....the good lord willing and the creeks don't rise it will be off to editing/layout next week.

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What's the word on this, Trolls?

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I spent the better part of yesterday working this over and have been doing so today as well. Its largely written. I'm now going over the first run through and organizing the material better. I'm not sure on the page count as I"m trying to remove the hyperbole that accompanies much of my prose and get it down to a nuts and bolts ms which is where I want it.

Peter has finished the main map, though there are a few corrections I need to make and names need to be added of course. I really hoping to wrap this up this week or early next and get this into the hopper. It is too late and needs to get out soon.

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Troll Lord wrote:
I spent the better part of yesterday working this over and have been doing so today as well. Its largely written. I'm now going over the first run through and organizing the material better. I'm not sure on the page count as I"m trying to remove the hyperbole that accompanies much of my prose and get it down to a nuts and bolts ms which is where I want it.

Peter has finished the main map, though there are a few corrections I need to make and names need to be added of course. I really hoping to wrap this up this week or early next and get this into the hopper.

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We are seriously looking into the folder option that the origianl Greyhawk book and maps came in. My main marketing guy is a little against it, but I'm leaning in that direction.

Will post more.

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Troll Lord wrote:
We are seriously looking into the folder option that the origianl Greyhawk book and maps came in. My main marketing guy is a little against it, but I'm leaning in that direction.

Will post more.

Should this come to fruition, it's a bold statement, indeed.

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Pretty much any way this gets packaged is gonna be OK with me. I'm only concerned with content and the Trolls continue to deliver great stuff!!

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Should this come to fruition, it's a bold statement, indeed.

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Any updates?

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Here here...updates would be cool. I run regular demos of C&C at my FLGS, and people are starting to grumble about the lack of a dedicated campaign setting. "Generic AD&D" is a phrase I'm beginning to hear tossed around alot, despite my attempts to extol the virtues of the game.
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So when is this going to hit the streets?

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Although the "world" that I'm currently CKing for is "under development", I never turn away any work that's been thoroughly considered, polished and had yea buckets of love and concern poured into it. Regardless of the format (although I've always had a fondness for the boxed sets with the saddle-stitched books and maps included; yes, call me an old fool for favoring the original Greyhawk release), the Aihdre setting material is going to be snapped up and assimiliated the moment it's released. Bring it on, TLG!

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Yeah, I will be picking up this when it's release for the sole purpose of "getting back into" Aihrde.

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Omote wrote:
Yeah, I will be picking up this when it's release for the sole purpose of "getting back into" Aihrde.

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Same here.

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Yeah, I will be picking up this when it's release for the sole purpose of "getting back into" Aihrde.

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As much as I love the detail, history and information in the Codex, I find myself looking at the AWD:AFCS for the Trolls S&S line more and more. And for all those Outremere-a-philes, I plan on running my Airhde campaign around Kayomar and the Darkenfold region.

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I really want an indepth view of Inzae
A "folio" like the original Greyhawk would be perfect.

Better yet, a little boxed set with the Death on the Treklant Trilogy , and an overall campaign book and map. This would be perfect, and I would buy it now.

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rabindranath72 wrote:
I really want an indepth view of Inzae
A "folio" like the original Greyhawk would be perfect.

Better yet, a little boxed set with the Death on the Treklant Trilogy , and an overall campaign book and map. This would be perfect, and I would buy it now.

I think I heard that they are planning to do a primer for Inzae similar to the AWD book. But I could be crazy.

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All I heard was about the "Inzae Red Box"
http://www.trolllord.com/newsite/anvil/index.html

This doesn't sound like a primer to me, but then again I may have missed something on the ROB forum.

As for a primer, I like the idea. However I'm wondering if it's just time to get the whole product out in one fell swoop rather then primering it and then releasing it at some point later.

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Omote wrote:
All I heard was about the "Inzae Red Box"
http://www.trolllord.com/newsite/anvil/index.html

This doesn't sound like a primer to me, but then again I may have missed something on the ROB forum.

I probably was thinking of that.
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I don't know. If it is like the AFW book for S&S or as I think the AWD for C&C is going to be, then a primer would be awsome for those who only want the basic info on Inzae, but don't want to have to devle into a whole "new and different" campaign. I honestly think that an Airhde/Inzae campagin could be ran out of a couple of primers (like C&C AWD) and a couple of Peter's maps.

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Hmm, you;re probably right about that. It is a good desgn feature to the setting.

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Here here...updates would be cool. I run regular demos of C&C at my FLGS, and people are starting to grumble about the lack of a dedicated campaign setting. "Generic AD&D" is a phrase I'm beginning to hear tossed around alot, despite my attempts to extol the virtues of the game.
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A setting does not make a game. Like 3E, C&C can have any setting used with it. I use Erde and Western GH so far. I can use FR, Eberron, Wilderlands, Aeroth, or any setting I choose with C&C.

Just like 3E can be. FR and Eberron are no more a dedicated setting for 3E than any other setting. It just so happens WOTC is producing those settings.

I know that you know all this, Inkpot. I also know you can't get on the internet very easily because your computer crashed. When you do read this, if ever, just quell the grumbling with reminding/pointing out to them that even WOTC doesn't support the "official" setting of 3E beyond what is in the PH and various other rules book, with the DMG 2 probably having the best as well as the most for GH.

With that being said I am looking forward to reformatted Erde and Inzae material. In the meantime I am having a good time pulling stuff out of the Codex and the various d20 modules. Reminds me a little of my old GH days and a lot of my Faerun days. I like modules that also expand upon the history and locations of a setting. Especially when I use the setting.
Since its 20,000 I suggest "Captain Nemo" as his title. Beyond the obvious connection, he is one who sails on his own terms and ignores those he doesn't agree with...confident in his journey and goals.
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Treebore wrote:
A setting does not make a game.

This is true to a point, and has much to do with what type of GM/DM/CK you are. Personally I play up the setting aspect in every game I run. This makes the multitude of games that I have run feel different from one another, almost like a completely different game. I think settings are a very important aspect to the roleplaying game. Setting can add verisimilitude and a tangability to our favorite fantasy RPGs. "Generic" is a terrible term for anything in our hobby.

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