Victorious: A dilemma

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Good fellows (and ladies),

The wife and I are having a disagreement, and in order to resolve it fairly I thought I'd come to the TLG forums to call upon your collective wisdom and puissance in the art of RPGs.

To wit; There is a Supernatural power within the game that is currently called "Blast". This is to reflect any sort of ranged offensive power, from heat vision to Magickal force and any such similar phantasmagoria. However, I am dissatisfied with the name. "Blast" seems vulgar and (worse) 21st century. I prefer either "Ray" or "Bolt", in order to maintain the theme of the milieu.

The lovely Elizabeth says "Piffle!" She does not feel that I should go to extraneous lengths to maintain proper Victorian sensibilities in the publication. She fears, I am given to understand, a level of terminology that I am told is "White Wolfian"....whatever that comment means.


What say you, friends?

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I voe "ray."
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Mr. Stewart,

Thank you for the opportunity to share with your august personage whatever wisdom, however humble, I might presume to impart. For the usage of the word "blast", while certainly a vulgarity often paired with the wicked "damn", does enjoy usage of the variety you have employed in your diversion. Look to the "blasting rod" of occult renown, that ill-famed wand of blackthorn. I should not proscribe its use.

However, "ray" is well-attested also, note the heat-ray of the tripodic aliens of Mr. Wells.

Of these snowy lupines, I dare not speak, save that I feel it is well in all cases to avoid prose of the porphyric sort, though I feel neither "blast" nor "ray" brings forth the bilious humours that may be evoked by "malkavians" or "ventrue".

I look forward to our continued correspondence on the matter, and hope I have only elucidated and not brought offense to this rarefied discussion.
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Blast may be a bit vulgar, but it has a wider connotative application than ray or bolt which are rather defining terms. Mayhaps the term "projection" might be used, not knowing the exactitude of your context, since this would allow the force applied to be either a radial or linear force application.
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Can I just say that I hope the entire rule book is written like this thread!
Yes. Seriously.

(I'm too tired to play along properly) Personally, I like "bolt" (Probably b/c of Dr. Strange's "Eldritch Bolts", but I think "Ray" is best. "Blast" to me, implies a point source radiating outward in all directions, like a grenade, where a "Ray" is more like a beam.
(I guess beam would work, but it sounds boring).

Doth that help at tall?
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I think blast evokes a wider array of usages...While ray and bolt seems a bit more focused on a few types of attacks. Blast seems more generic to me.

For example: all rays are blasts, but not all blasts are rays.
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Dear Master Stewart,
Upon raising your concerns with my good wife, who concurs with your own good lady's "piffle", we decided to peruse a suitable tome for enlightenment. Being the proud owner of a suitable Dictionary (Brewer's Dictionary of Phrase & Fable ~ 1898 printing) I wish to directly quote the good Rev Brewer's definition:
"Blast. To strike by lightening; to make to wither"
I feel that this is an extremely suitable descriptive for the varied phantasmagoria to which you refer in your opening missive (and not as "modern" as it seems!).
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Dear Gentleman and Ladies,

To those kind enough to provide intelligence upon this subject, I give profound thanks.
My arguments crumble around me like Sevastopol in the Crimea; I admit defeat, and insure one and all that the term "Blast" will be retained; blast it all! ;)

Your humble servant,

M. Stewart, BA, MS, MAS, FLTLG
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DMMike wrote:Dear Gentleman and Ladies,

To those kind enough to provide intelligence upon this subject, I give profound thanks.
My arguments crumble around me like Sevastopol in the Crimea; I admit defeat, and insure one and all that the term "Blast" will be retained; blast it all! ;)

Your humble servant,

M. Stewart, BA, MS, MAS, FLTLG
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How about instead Emanation from:

em·a·nate
  1.
to flow out, issue, or proceed, as from a source or origin; come forth; originate.
verb (used with object)
2.
to send forth; emit.


Problem with Blast, is that the definition actually isn't as wide open for the intended use as everyone seems to think. See these definitions:

1. an explosion, as of dynamite
2. a. the rapid movement of air away from the centre of an explosion, combustion of rocket fuel, etc
b. a wave of overpressure caused by an explosion; shock wave
3. the charge of explosive used in a single explosion
4. a sudden strong gust of wind or air
5. a sudden loud sound, as of a trumpet
6. a violent verbal outburst, as of criticism
7. a forcible jet or stream of air, esp one used to intensify the heating effect of a furnace, increase the draught in a steam engine, or break up coal at a coalface
8. any of several diseases of plants and animals, esp one producing withering in plants
9. slang ( US ) a very enjoyable or thrilling experience: the party was a blast
10. full blast , at full blast at maximum speed, volume, etc

— interj
11. slang an exclamation of annoyance (esp in phrases such as blast it! and blast him! )

— vb
12. to destroy or blow up with explosives, shells, etc
13. to make or cause to make a loud harsh noise
14. ( tr ) to remove, open, etc, by an explosion: to blast a hole in a wall
15. ( tr ) to ruin; shatter: the rain blasted our plans for a picnic
16. to wither or cause to wither; blight or be blighted
17. to criticize severely
18. to shoot or shoot at: he blasted the hat off her head ; he blasted away at the trees

[Old English blǣst , related to Old Norse blāstr ]

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Aw heck - just change it to "SPIT" -- Energy Spit, Element Spit, whatever!
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Relaxo wrote:Can I just say that I hope the entire rule book is written like this thread!
Yes. Seriously.

(I'm too tired to play along properly) Personally, I like "bolt" (Probably b/c of Dr. Strange's "Eldritch Bolts", but I think "Ray" is best. "Blast" to me, implies a point source radiating outward in all directions, like a grenade, where a "Ray" is more like a beam.
(I guess beam would work, but it sounds boring).

Doth that help at tall?

Rgr on that! I already want the game now I have to have it!!! (reshuffeling the list of must have books for when the VA finally comes through with a check)


How about instead Emanation from:

em·a·nate
  1.
to flow out, issue, or proceed, as from a source or origin; come forth; originate.
verb (used with object)
2.
to send forth; emit.
That gits my vote
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while technically correct, Eminate doesn't sound as flashy and well, violent, enough as compared to Blast or Ray, IMO.
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How about "beam?"

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Ronin77 wrote:I think blast evokes a wider array of usages...While ray and bolt seems a bit more focused on a few types of attacks. Blast seems more generic to me.

For example: all rays are blasts, but not all blasts are rays.
This is exactly the point I had made to Mike when he first brought the matter up--well said, Ronin77!

And Mike, again I say unto you--piffle! :mrgreen:
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T'would appear the correct name for said power shall be, "I told you so."
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...or "Piffle"; since that seems to be the term bandied about! ;)

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Nah, "Neener" will do just fine...
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Pish-tosh!
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