A review of the Southern Reaches map

Geoffrey · Post by **Geoffrey** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:54 am

Click here: http://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/viewt ... 419#521419

I haven't had much time to read the journal. I've been too spellbound by the map!

Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:01 am

Wow! That is one glowing review!

I agree, it is gorgeous and packed!

I need to see if James is willing to work out a deal with a certain laminating business who specializes in supporting the gamer community.
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Plaag · Post by **Plaag** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:47 am

Yeah, love the map - which is one of the things I enjoy most from a product even over art. Great review to. Mind if I use it for the Booty List? (think I may change how I do reviews on the site, rather then link to forums and such, have pages on the site that they are linked to)

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Omote · Post by **Omote** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:59 pm

'Tis a great map, but why work out some kind of deal with a laminating company? Unless you just mean for a specific discount for AGP's materials, because honestly while I plan on having this map laminated, the original, textured copy is awesome.

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Geoffrey · Post by **Geoffrey** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:19 pm

Plaag wrote:
Great review too. Mind if I use it for the Booty List?

Please feel free.

Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:53 pm

Omote wrote:
'Tis a great map, but why work out some kind of deal with a laminating company? Unless you just mean for a specific discount for AGP's materials, because honestly while I plan on having this map laminated, the original, textured copy is awesome.

-O

Because if James works out a contract with them: http://www.gamer-printshop.com/

They print it out AND laminate, so I get to keep the original and get another laminated version for about $3.00 more. So for about $8.00 (plus shipping) I would have a second laminated copy.

Thats why.
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jamesmishler · Post by **jamesmishler** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:13 pm

Treebore,

The problem with working out such a deal is that the printer would get the lion's share of the profit. Unfortunately, with the niche market as it is, this is the reason I decided to go direct to the consumer rather than through distribution and retail (the way things are today, I'd lose 70% of the MSRP to get a product on a store's shelf, not to mention the costs of shipping).

However, if you want to laminate a copy, I have a limited number of unfolded maps available; I had intended to sell them as convention exclusives, but with the way the economy is going, I'll be lucky to be at Gen Con this year, let alone any of the smaller conventions, so I'll be putting up a page to sell the unfolded maps. Probably $12 each ($9 for subscribers on the first copy), plus shipping (which would include the cost of a mailing tube). You easily have that laminated anywhere.
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Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 2:10 am

Did you read their "general agreement"?

It seemed to read to me they made most of their money on the part that would be your publishing cost. IE they charge what you want, then add what their fee is.

IF you haven't you may want to talk to them about it. I don't think they do anything to rip of the "creator".
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gideon_thorne · Post by **gideon_thorne** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 2:33 am

Going to a place and having ones own laminating done is, methinks, the best bet. Not everyone is going to want their map laminated. This way, there is a choice.
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Treebore · Post by **Treebore** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:33 am

gideon_thorne wrote:
Going to a place and having ones own laminating done is, methinks, the best bet. Not everyone is going to want their map laminated. This way, there is a choice.

I agree. Having a place that you can order the map, they print it out and laminate it, then mail it to your house, is just another choice. Considering I live 40 to 60 minutes away from the nearest locations to get lamination done, its a good choice for me. Shipping is even cheaper than the gas.

Since it takes over 3 gallons of gas for me to go each way, over 7 gallons total.
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seskis281 · Post by **seskis281** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:14 am

jamesmishler wrote:
I had intended to sell them as convention exclusives, but with the way the economy is going, I'll be lucky to be at Gen Con this year, let alone any of the smaller conventions...

Hey James, any chance of some being available at LGGC this June?
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jamesmishler · Post by **jamesmishler** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 6:09 am

seskis281 wrote:
Hey James, any chance of some being available at LGGC this June?

Probably; even if I am not able to make it to the show, hopefully the Trolls will sell my products for me. But at this time I can make no guarantees.
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Zulgyan · Post by **Zulgyan** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:05 am

Will there be more maps like this? I would love to see map 8 done. And also the Tarantis map.

jamesmishler · Post by **jamesmishler** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:12 pm

Zulgyan wrote:
Will there be more maps like this? I would love to see map 8 done. And also the Tarantis map.

Oh yes, that is the plan. The next one should be Map 5 (old Map 1) the City State itself. That's after the Rhadamanthia Continental Map and the Western Karak Map. The Roglaras, aka the Lands of the City State, are planned as the second Campaign Installment and Gazetteer.
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